Comments on: Some difficult micros from the summer http://suffolkmoths.org.uk/blog/index.php/2014/09/25/some-difficult-micros-from-the-summer/ Topical information from the Suffolk Moth Group Tue, 25 Feb 2020 18:38:33 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=3.6.1 By: Raymond Watson http://suffolkmoths.org.uk/blog/index.php/2014/09/25/some-difficult-micros-from-the-summer/#comment-2164 Raymond Watson Sat, 27 Sep 2014 05:37:24 +0000 http://suffolkmoths.org.uk/blog/?p=5012#comment-2164 I haven’t seen a female laricana but noted variation in ocellana. My thoughts were for the tortricid females as a whole. Having only just taken a laricana and looking at internet photos of the two species I feel the wing pattern difference for the species is more clear than might be thought.

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By: jonc http://suffolkmoths.org.uk/blog/index.php/2014/09/25/some-difficult-micros-from-the-summer/#comment-2163 jonc Fri, 26 Sep 2014 06:54:09 +0000 http://suffolkmoths.org.uk/blog/?p=5012#comment-2163 Raymond
Regarding the female genitalia of Spilonota laricana/ocellana, I have great difficulty seeing the quoted differences mentioned in Razowski “cingulum smaller and weaker but more sclerite in laricana”, I see no differences in this area between the two species. Have you any experience with the females of these two, what are your thoughts? The moths Brian gave me were more occelana like in wing shape but this could be due to the fact they were long dead in a pot.

PS I’m away from tomorrow so may not see your reply until I return. E-mail me direct if you have any conclusive images.

Regards JC

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By: Raymond Watson http://suffolkmoths.org.uk/blog/index.php/2014/09/25/some-difficult-micros-from-the-summer/#comment-2162 Raymond Watson Fri, 26 Sep 2014 05:56:01 +0000 http://suffolkmoths.org.uk/blog/?p=5012#comment-2162 Like the Gynnidomorpha, shame about the Spilonota though. I think a little research is needed on the female tortricid genitalia as many are poorly known.

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<![CDATA[ Raymond Regarding the female genitalia of Spilonota laricana/ocellana, I have great difficulty seeing the quoted differences mentioned in Razowski &quot;cingulum smaller and weaker but more sclerite in laricana&quot;, I see no differences in this area between the two species. Have you any experience with the females of these two, what are your thoughts? The moths Brian gave me were more occelana like in wing shape but this could be due to the fact they were long dead in a pot. PS I&#039;m away from tomorrow so may not see your reply until I return. E-mail me direct if you have any conclusive images. Regards JC ]]>
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